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Question about enet cable programing - kimetp - 10-10-2019
Sorry for this stupid question
Any one have programed all car with istap with enet cable successful
its safe to do it with enet cable
because i want to program all car but i'm scared
BMW F10 530DX
RE: Question about enet cable programing - Spirit5676 - 10-10-2019
(10-10-2019, 10:19 AM)kimetp Wrote: Sorry for this stupid question
Any one have programed all car with istap with enet cable successful
its safe to do it with enet cable
because i want to program all car but i'm scared
BMW F10 530DX
Why would you want to program F10 with ISTAP? If you want to update the car to latest software use E-sys. Any recent ISTAP version won't support F-series. This has been the case for a awhile now. Why you want to update the car? Updating car is risky even with the right equipment. Do you have a proper power supply?
RE: Question about enet cable programing - kimetp - 10-10-2019
Yes i have power supply
How can i update to lates version with esys can you help me
And i want to ask what is differenc enet cable and icom what cant to do with enet cable
RE: Question about enet cable programing - Node - 10-10-2019
ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.
F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).
So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.
As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.
I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.
RE: Question about enet cable programing - laso - 10-10-2019
(10-10-2019, 12:53 PM)Node Wrote: ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.But I have a problem with configuration ISTA+ for progromming F series.
F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).
So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.
As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.
I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.
I have a Standalone version and full psdzdata.
Maybe can you help how configuration my register
RE: Question about enet cable programing - Node - 10-10-2019
I do not have ENET cable so can't help. But I think I saw somewhere that at least latest standalones by Sedoy do work with ENET cables. Can't guarantee that though.
RE: Question about enet cable programing - laso - 10-10-2019
I have ICOM but ISTA not work
RE: Question about enet cable programing - Node - 10-10-2019
How? What happens?
RE: Question about enet cable programing - kimetp - 10-10-2019
(10-10-2019, 12:53 PM)Node Wrote: ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.
F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).
So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.
As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.
I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.
Do you mean ista p because i think ista+ is not for programming just diagnostic ?
RE: Question about enet cable programing - DayvG - 10-10-2019
(10-10-2019, 16:54 PM)kimetp Wrote:(10-10-2019, 12:53 PM)Node Wrote: ICOM is a separate computer which handles all protocols itself and has connection to a car through multiple busses (D-CAN, K-CAN, ENET) at the same time. It also has internal measurement for car voltage, etc.
F10 is able to talk via D-CAN and ENET. Strictly speaking both of these are connected to ZGM which then "translates" messages and forward to other units in a car via appropriate buses. As long as your ZGM is functioning properly there is no difference. However ENET bus needs much more complicate software to run, and early ZGMs do have issues to be programmed over this bus (you can use search on this forum to find workarounds).
So basically, ICOM can monitor car voltage, ignition status and other things itself and stop communication with a car if prerequisites are not met. ENET cable will pump data to a car in any case. If your power supply has ample amperage to keep constant car voltage, this may not be an issue.
As Spirit said flashing a car is always a risk. Its just smaller (and potentially easier recoverable) with the right tools.
I personally prefer ISTA+ for flashing because its "run and enjoy". It knows which units need to be programmed with ignition on and which with it off. It also runs all required initializations afterwards. With E-Sys you more or less need to know all of that yourself and do manually. But when flashing fails seriously, E-Sys is the only tool to do recovery.
Do you mean ista p because i think ista+ is not for programming just diagnostic ?
ISTA+ is for programming and diagnostics. However many people prefer E-Sys for flashing ECU's especially with retrofitted components.
I can provide admin licenses for a cleaner easier to update version of ISTA+