[stunt_rider]

Hey guys, 
i need to make Immo off on a Citroen C3 1.4 HDI 2004.

I have serached now the internet and only found the Julie Emulator solution for Siemens SID 802. 

I am not even sure if this ecu is in the car , but i think it is, must check today. 


Do i need to make it with this Emulator?
Is it really not possible to read dump from EEPROM in ECU and change dump for Immo off or maybe in flash??? 

Just want to get confirmed that there is no other solution than Julie Emulator... 




regards & thanks for help !

[fab]

https://cartechnology.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=19730

[ROD-BENDERS]

Hey guys, 
i need to make Immo off on a Citroen C3 1.4 HDI 2004.

I have serached now the internet and only found the Julie Emulator solution for Siemens SID 802. 

I am not even sure if this ecu is in the car , but i think it is, must check today. 


Do i need to make it with this Emulator?
Is it really not possible to read dump from EEPROM in ECU and change dump for Immo off or maybe in flash??? 

Just want to get confirmed that there is no other solution than Julie Emulator... 




regards & thanks for help !

Depends on ecu type, you need to find this out first. If edc16c3 then post eprom dump

[stunt_rider]

okay , I found out that for siemens ecu flash read is enough, so @fab i first need to flash virgin file to ecu and after that the off file ? is this right solution ?

And for EDC16 I know ,I need to desolder EEPROM , but what program to use for IMMO OFF , or should i post here ?

[fab]

okay , I found out that for siemens ecu flash read is enough, so @fab i first need to flash virgin file to ecu and after that the off file ? is this right solution ?

And for EDC16 I know ,I need to desolder EEPROM , but what program  to use for IMMO OFF , or should i post here ?

Hi,
I do not think the immo off file will work as for this ecu its ONLY virgin...(C3 1.4 HDI 2004 = Siemens Sid802).
You will need to have your flash virginized and you need the pin (read carefully the first post in the link )

if you want to use an emulator: Page 15

For edc1634 eeprom (95160) i enough for immo off, as ROD-BENDERS said (but this is not your car...)

[stunt_rider]

@fab okay so it must be a BRAND NEW ECU ?

Some seller on ebay says he just need flash from Siemens Sid802 and he can make IMMO OFF for me so this is false and not possible ?

[fab]

As far as I know there is No immo off for this ecu.
I wouldnt completely trust eBay Sellers

Brand New ecu??
Why? No, just read the flash and post dump here...
I am sure someone Will Virginise it for you ...

[stunt_rider]

okay @fab alright i just thought it is not possible to virginise the old ecu , i am really new into this just done Immo off on old Msa15 ecus there it is just easy

but maybe the ebay seller is also virginising the ecu or somehow ? I still dont understand how it is done 100% ,

virginising ecu, then a code is needed to addapt to the car ? and than ? there is Immo off ? i dont understand....

[fab]

Immo off and Immo Virgin (or Immo off partial, if you like) are two different operations.
It is either immo off OR virgin.
Immo off is disabeling the immobilizer alltogether, you can start the car with a screwdriver if it would fit. .
Virgin is like resetting the immo system including immobox,ecu, bsm(bsi). )
With Lexia/Diagbox (i believe) the ecu relearns the transponder keys.
In order to do that, you need to know the pincode. Diagbox or any other tool will ask for it...

So it is a bit of a headache.
Emulator is easier...

[stunt_rider]

i want to try to virgin the ecu .

Must i read only eeprom from ecu or also read eeprom from bsi to make virgin?

And how to get the code ? from dump?

I just dont know exactly what steps to do to make it virgin.

Ps. a friend got Lexia 3 for learning the keys